Comments on: Plagiarism and Academia http://tech.one.com.pk/2005/08/02/plagiarism-and-academia/ Exploring Pakistan's Technology Frontier Sun, 20 May 2012 19:18:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Anonymous Coward http://tech.one.com.pk/2005/08/02/plagiarism-and-academia/comment-page-1/#comment-193 Anonymous Coward Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-193 RE:This really needs to be condemned at the highest level. I hope someone at IIU and HEC looks into this and takes some appropriate action. Based on the attention this is getting (look at the comments section on Schneier's post), foreign profs will get more skeptical while considering admission applications from Pakistani students. RE:This really needs to be condemned at the highest level. I hope someone at IIU and HEC looks into this and takes some appropriate action. Based on the attention this is getting (look at the comments section on Schneier’s post), foreign profs will get more skeptical while considering admission applications from Pakistani students.

]]> By: BigSexyWashboardAbsAl http://tech.one.com.pk/2005/08/02/plagiarism-and-academia/comment-page-1/#comment-195 BigSexyWashboardAbsAl Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-195 Though it is extremely oddThough it is extremely odd that someone would think they can get away with plagerising a thesis, the fact is that it happens in this country and it happens ALL the time. I think you would be hard-pressed to find someone who DID NOT palgerise their thesis. For most of the privileged people in this country who can get an education, it is the only way to pass! Not only that, for most of the under-paid faculty it's the only way to make ends meet (i.e endorsing such behaviour). That being said, of course I dont endorse this behaviour. Big Sexy's Got Cha Numba! Though it is extremely oddThough it is extremely odd that someone would think they can get away with plagerising a thesis, the fact is that it happens in this country and it happens ALL the time. I think you would be hard-pressed to find someone who DID NOT palgerise their thesis. For most of the privileged people in this country who can get an education, it is the only way to pass! Not only that, for most of the under-paid faculty it’s the only way to make ends meet (i.e endorsing such behaviour).

That being said, of course I dont endorse this behaviour.

Big Sexy’s Got Cha Numba!

]]> By: Faisal Danka http://tech.one.com.pk/2005/08/02/plagiarism-and-academia/comment-page-1/#comment-196 Faisal Danka Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-196 Am not surprisedGreetings mates! I am not surprised at this story single bit. I was in Pakistan and it is the most common ‘thing’ in universities and colleges. I have seen plagiarists from most senior to junior levels. Surprisingly on a local level, the plagiarists can turn around papers quickly hence are considered ‘smarter’. My research published by CNN, BBC, WashingtonPost, etc internationally (see below for a few links) was not even mentioned anywhere in Pakistani media (at that time I was a proud Pakistani– should not surprise why am not anymore). While on the other hand a Pakistani plagiarist threw tea party to a couple of journalist and claimed the same discovery and got local media coverage while internationally everyone thought of him as a clown. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3013665.stm http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech/05/09/microsoft.flaw.ap/ In a weird way, I am happy not to be covered by Pakistani media, in my eyes I think they are not worth it. Therefore, I have happily moved on. Cheers P.S. I just learned the owner of this blog works at Microsoft, will he be straight enough to let this comment through? Let's see if he is a two faced or not and if the comment is blocked then you know who you are hypocrite! Am not surprisedGreetings mates!

I am not surprised at this story single bit. I was in Pakistan and it is the most common ‘thing’ in universities and colleges. I have seen plagiarists from most senior to junior levels. Surprisingly on a local level, the plagiarists can turn around papers quickly hence are considered ‘smarter’.

My research published by CNN, BBC, WashingtonPost, etc internationally (see below for a few links) was not even mentioned anywhere in Pakistani media (at that time I was a proud Pakistani– should not surprise why am not anymore). While on the other hand a Pakistani plagiarist threw tea party to a couple of journalist and claimed the same discovery and got local media coverage while internationally everyone thought of him as a clown.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3013665.stm
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech/05/09/microsoft.flaw.ap/

In a weird way, I am happy not to be covered by Pakistani media, in my eyes I think they are not worth it. Therefore, I have happily moved on.

Cheers

P.S. I just learned the owner of this blog works at Microsoft, will he be straight enough to let this comment through? Let’s see if he is a two faced or not and if the comment is blocked then you know who you are hypocrite!

]]> By: TDH http://tech.one.com.pk/2005/08/02/plagiarism-and-academia/comment-page-1/#comment-200 TDH Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-200 Just think about it for aJust think about it for a moment .. ! What kind of facilities are provided to students in pk for their research. For a fact i know they only have a budget of not more than 30000 for research. Cell phones cost more than that. With that budget can you imagine the rate at which these universities are churning out masters and PHd students. I wanted to stay here and do my studies, but would you just look at the environment thats being provided to PHd students here. The situation is sickening. The conditions these days favourable for these universities to make money. They get any person in their programme and get their degrees finished as is the ritual. "Beta passs ho gaya" Is this the way research is done ? How can PHd research be completed in 2 years ? Above all people from these universities are encouraged by their teachers to do the forgeries. Funny part they try to justify it too. I say Ata ur rehman did a nice job of getting the education standard higher by raising the tution fee of the universities. Hats off to the Govt. Hats off to the People who make money. Hats off to the anals who got their degrees. Just think about it for aJust think about it for a moment .. !

What kind of facilities are provided to students in pk for their research. For a fact i know they only have a budget of not more than 30000 for research. Cell phones cost more than that.

With that budget can you imagine the rate at which these universities are churning out masters and PHd students. I wanted to stay here and do my studies, but would you just look at the environment thats being provided to PHd students here. The situation is sickening.

The conditions these days favourable for these universities to make money. They get any person in their programme and get their degrees finished as is the ritual. “Beta passs ho gaya”

Is this the way research is done ?
How can PHd research be completed in 2 years ?

Above all people from these universities are encouraged by their teachers to do the forgeries. Funny part they try to justify it too.

I say Ata ur rehman did a nice job of getting the education standard higher by raising the tution fee of the universities.

Hats off to the Govt.
Hats off to the People who make money.
Hats off to the anals who got their degrees.

]]> By: Anonymous http://tech.one.com.pk/2005/08/02/plagiarism-and-academia/comment-page-1/#comment-220 Anonymous Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-220 And hats off to the sorryAnd hats off to the sorry paki asses And hats off to the sorryAnd hats off to the sorry paki asses

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